tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post7655856761554844384..comments2023-10-08T04:20:40.882-07:00Comments on The "Save Kerala" Initiative<br> - <br>Dogs Own Country?: Government? ufff! The People – Democrazy in DOC, Part 1Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-20794928711126369422008-04-08T10:31:00.000-07:002008-04-08T10:31:00.000-07:00A sad but very common scenario in many public offi...A sad but very common scenario in many public offices in Kerala and the rest of India.<BR/><BR/>As @emmanuel says nobody believes they can do anything to change it. So although we rant and rave about how bad the system is we don't believe that we can do anything to change it. And since we can't change it - we join in!! Instead of stemming the rot, we spread it!! <BR/><BR/>I have mentioned this worldcitizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09851517460496705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-46152568639188957522008-04-03T01:18:00.000-07:002008-04-03T01:18:00.000-07:00Who wants to change thge current setup? The person...Who wants to change thge current setup? The person who goes there or the person works? Nobody thinks that the change has to start from one own' line of thought. I had the experience of sending an application again after three years for something in a Goovt. Educational department because of the reason that my earlier applications were unattended. When I wanted to attest my certificate here in a Emmanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05097538125525409752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-78485481270728140032008-04-02T00:16:00.000-07:002008-04-02T00:16:00.000-07:00how will this situation ever change? will computer...how will this situation ever change? will computerization of govt services help? or will the unions even allow it? everyone has bad experiences with civil servants. they are organized but we are not. well kerala is the land of union's and one more wont hurt...maybe the citizens of kerala should form an organization and use it in our dealings with the bureaucracy. we will definitely be more in Jibyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324353796946088382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-71006111465275686852008-04-01T08:06:00.000-07:002008-04-01T08:06:00.000-07:00I think, we cannot simply focus on existing situat...I think, we cannot simply focus on existing situation and seek a solution. As someone commented before, it all comes from our culture, tradition etc., that we have been following probably thousands of years, be it our caste system or religion, it all affects the way people think. And those thoughts get propagated to the next generation. So if you leave Kerala, see other people/culture, we seem toNavin Rajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180146756211602830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-61482055871008737702008-03-31T23:41:00.000-07:002008-03-31T23:41:00.000-07:00I appreciate this post- only because I was arguing...I appreciate this post- only because I was arguing with a friend about this very thing. They argued how easy it was to get all these things done- i had other views on the matter.Buggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14564330519499387878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-70601966551453993322008-03-31T20:35:00.000-07:002008-03-31T20:35:00.000-07:00@Scorpiogenius: Google and you will find many arti...@Scorpiogenius: Google and you will find many articles. Here is <A HREF="http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/15/stories/2006031525070100.htm" REL="nofollow">one</A> to begin with!silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-74167667046026756362008-03-31T07:54:00.000-07:002008-03-31T07:54:00.000-07:00@ Silverine...thats an encouraging news. What magi...@ Silverine...thats an encouraging news. What magic did the Lokayuktha do there?scorpiogeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08071359354604682509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-67935138282826550272008-03-30T20:18:00.000-07:002008-03-30T20:18:00.000-07:00In Karanataka, the Lok Ayukta has bought about swe...In Karanataka, the Lok Ayukta has bought about sweeping changes in the govt offices. Now it is difficult to get things done with bribe actually...at least in some offices like RTO. I am sure they will soon clear up the rest too going by their record. However in Karnataka you don't have unions opposing the Lok Ayukta or any other instruments like it that are cleaning up the govt servants act!<BR/>silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-27457232514910218842008-03-30T08:59:00.000-07:002008-03-30T08:59:00.000-07:00Kerala is not very unique in the aspect. All state...Kerala is not very unique in the aspect. All states in India have this problem (most of them are worse).<BR/><BR/>Nobody has suggested a solution. In fact the problem with the system starts with our government. None of our leaders want to change the system because that is what 'feeds' them. So let us not blame the officers .They are just servants of 'the system'<BR/><BR/>Let us pay the bribe andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-64990635572638425592008-03-29T21:09:00.000-07:002008-03-29T21:09:00.000-07:00Hey - another question - are there going to be ele...Hey - another question - are there going to be elections any time soon? Is there any point of time in future towards which one can start a campaign to ensure that the same incompetent elements do not get reelected once again? It seems that this Kerala "government" seems to be making all the difference yes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-63273073680115234562008-03-28T11:40:00.000-07:002008-03-28T11:40:00.000-07:00@ madhavan - wow..just 7 for the marriage certific...@ madhavan - wow..just 7 for the marriage certificate? you are lucky..i recently met a russian couple who decided to have their baby delivered in Kerala. they were happy with everything, until they had to run around for the birth certificate. they regretted their choice only because of that.<BR/>Corporation is the worst among the government offices, and all you have there are leeches and uncouth MChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09789449171053052026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-656397623101439202008-03-28T10:12:00.000-07:002008-03-28T10:12:00.000-07:00I don't want to sound stupid - but is this article...I don't want to sound stupid - but is this article: <A HREF="http://lifestyle.in.msn.com/work/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1312993" REL="nofollow">Kerala Police</A><BR/><BR/>mean that the Kerala police is good or bad? Why are there overqualified cops in Kerala?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-52289090607030924392008-03-28T09:24:00.000-07:002008-03-28T09:24:00.000-07:00@ScorpiogeniusThis problem is technically possible...@Scorpiogenius<BR/>This problem is technically possible to be resolved by installing survelliance camera's and cashless transaction in offices.(thats what happen out here and proabably at your place too..coz there are corrupt europeans too ;-P)<BR/><BR/>But it should be corrected attitude wise among the normal public who have now dangerously come to accept that bribing is part of the parcel. <BR/mathewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00860741232962357228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-46775310825372463402008-03-28T07:53:00.000-07:002008-03-28T07:53:00.000-07:00These are our "relatives" too..I have aunts and un...These are our "relatives" too..<BR/><BR/>I have aunts and uncles who have been "civil" servants in the Kerala government. Most of my classmates parents were NGOs or GOs. Nowadays, these might be our peers: I certainly have a cousin who works for the emergency preparedness department of GoK, and sleeps the whole time at home, maybe preparing for an emergency at night.<BR/><BR/>As much as we might Vinod/Kakkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256447889123395310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-14397355021271945372008-03-28T05:52:00.000-07:002008-03-28T05:52:00.000-07:00Right!The picture aptly portrayed. This has been g...Right!<BR/><BR/>The picture aptly portrayed. This has been going on for ages and will go on.. You will get similar stories if you ask any citizen of Kerala who had been to these offices. <BR/><BR/>The million dollar question is: Anyone got any solutions to end this menace???scorpiogeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08071359354604682509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7848730.post-46982586913726567462008-03-28T05:27:00.000-07:002008-03-28T05:27:00.000-07:00Very graphic description of the beaurocratic tangl...Very graphic description of the beaurocratic tangles in everday Trivandrum life.When I got married, I had to pay 7 visits to the Trivandrum corporation to get my Marriage Certificate ! When I built my house I had to make a make more than a dozen visits to the Corporation office for planning permission & approval; eventhough it is suppossed to be a "Single Window" affair.<BR/>I have been conned Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02450331188933815402noreply@blogger.com